Kirk Douglas: I have made four movies in Israel one of them was with John Wayne, Yul Brynner, and Frank Sinatra Israel was never the same
Hello Mr. Douglas. Is that a tape recorder? I’m
always amazed how these tape recorders get smaller and smaller.
It’s digital, so there’s no tape, just a chip. Before I
get carried away asking questions, let me find out what you are
working on. I am just polishing up my ninth book, which
will come out in December, when I am 90. The title is Let’s Face
It. There are so many things in life that we must face. I dedicate
the book to my seven grandchildren. I am concerned that the world
is in a mess. How are our children going to deal with all the
problems we have given them? That’s what the book is about. It’s
also got a lot of humor in it, because I feel that you can’t face
the hard problems in life without a sense of humor.
Your books are inspiring to people who have suffered
some of the things you have written about — a serious accident, a
stroke. Have you gotten a lot of response from them? Oh
yes. My book about my stroke — so many people have written to me
that the book has helped them, or their relative. I got a call from
Lucy Baines Johnson. She was reading the book to Lady Bird, who was
finding it very helpful. I sent it to Lady Bird with the
inscription, “You’re a big girl now — you should have your own
The books help people to feel that no matter what
happens to them, they are not alone. Is that something you set out
to do? I have been aiming for that for a long time, even
since before I became an author. A movie is made to help people.
Movies exist to take you out of your life for a few hours while you
identify with the people on screen. That is a very therapeutic
thing. To make someone laugh, that’s a wonderful gift.
I am going to ask you a couple of serious question, then
one that is more fun. First, today Israel is at war with Hezbollah.
I know that this must concern you. Do you have any thoughts on the
fate of Israel? Oh yes, I have great feeling for Israel,
and I have been there many times. I have made four movies in
Israel. One of them was with John Wayne, Yul Brynner, and Frank
Sinatra. Israel was never the same. These statues [points to his
garden] are by an Israeli artist.
The thing about Israel is it’s such a small piece of land. It’s
the size of Maryland, and think of the impact it has had. I have
lots of friends in Israel, and I’ve met [former Prime Minister
Ariel] Sharon when he was mayor of Jerusalem. But when you look at
the map, Israel is surrounded. [He lists all the neighboring
countries.] All enemies. You can’t believe it still exists.
They say if the Arab countries put down their weapons, there
would be no war. If Israel put down its weapons, there would be no
Israel. It’s almost shameful that in our life now we have people
killing people and most of it is in the name of religion. I think
that is horrible. When I look at the blue sky, I know there is a
god. What must he think of these people killing one another?
Down at the Getty Center in Brentwood [Los Angeles] they
are opening a replica of a Greek theater to stage Greek tragedies.
Is the connection between drama and democracy that was established
by the Greeks alive today? Of course! Movies help us to be
better citizens. I have never met a good actor who was not
intelligent, or who did not have other talents — writing or
painting. Frank Sinatra was a good painter. Anthony Quinn was with
me on Lust for Life and he made me some beautiful cuff links that
my son who lives here stole.
Lots of people at magazines make their living knocking actors.
If they have a marriage and a quick divorce, that’s news, but when
I celebrate my 50th anniversary, that’s not.
My son Michael made a documentary in the Sierra Leone with
children who are suffering. Most of them were 11, 12, or 13 years
old. And what they have been through! It made me cry. One kid was
very sad. He had lost his mother, and Michael started singing, “I
love you a bushel and a peck,” and he smiled. Michael got an award
from the UN for that film. He has done so much — given away
millions of dollars. A million and a half to the Katrina fund
alone. As far as that goes, I am proud of my son and of the people
in my industry.
I received the Presidential Medal of Honor in 1981, and for
years I traveled the world for this country, mostly just telling my
own story, about an immigrant who came to this country from Russia
to give me, his son, a better chance. That’s what’s really
American, to give everyone a better chance.
Here’s a hypothetical question. You have a big love
scene coming up, and you are cast opposite the contemporary female
star of your choice. Who would that be, and why? Hmm. I
like thinking about this question. A female star from contemporary
Hollywood? I will say Angelina Jolie, because I know she’s a good
person. I know her father and he is a great man. He’s done so much
for other people, so I know that she has that in her genes. And
she’s so sexy. I am back on the open market to be her leading man.
I don’t even need to see the script. I’ll do it.
Last question. My favorite, and I know one of yours, is
a movie called Lonely Are the Brave. What made that one so
special? It’s my favorite of all my films. At one time,
they were going to call it The Last Cowboy. I guess I love it
because I was the hero, and for once I was the good guy. (Laughs.)
That picture is great because it is so simple. He loves the horse.
He has got people coming after him, but he can’t leave the horse.